Star Trek Series Erased From Existence By Sci-Fi Show, Is It Revenge?

By Douglas Helm | Published

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Star Trek definitely exists in the universe of Ronald D. Moore’s Apple TV+ series For All Mankind, but does every show from the franchise exist? A recent episode has fans speculating that Moore is purposefully suggesting that Star Trek: Voyager wasn’t made in the For All Mankind universe.

If true, it seems like Moore would be throwing some slight shade toward screenwriter Brannon Braga, whom Moore had a falling out with, causing him to leave Voyager.

Voyager Might Not Exist In For All Mankind

For All Mankind takes place in an alternate reality where there is a global space race, and one of the interesting aspects of the show is seeing the slight differences in the timelines from our reality. The Star Trek: Voyager theory popped up when a Reddit user pointed out that the character Danielle (Krys Marshall), the first African-American woman in space, sent a message to her stepson Isaiah about the birth of his daughter.

In the scene, Danielle says, “I know you hate Star Trek, but you better get used to it, because I’m gonna make sure my grandbaby is a full-blown Trekkie,” adding, “That’s right, we’re gonna watch all the series, all three of them.”

For All Mankind Only Recognizes 3 Star Trek Shows

While that statement may seem innocuous enough, the scene takes place in 2003, when there were six series in the franchise, including The Original Series, The Animated Series, The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager, and Enterprise.

This could be Moore throwing shade on Voyager, but it’s strange that Danielle wouldn’t say “all five” instead of “all three” if Moore was trying to be explicit about Voyager not existing. Perhaps this is just a case of For All Mankind’s timeline differing in the sense that there just weren’t as many Star Trek shows made in this universe.

Moore’s History With Star Trek

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Still, Ronald D. Moore’s history with Star Trek is well-documented, so it makes sense that this raised some suspicion from fans. Moore has worked on The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine and was a co-writer and executive producer for Voyager before leaving the project just weeks after coming on board.

While For All Mankind‘s Moore originally said the decision was because he simply felt it was time to move on, he later revealed that he felt excluded by Braga from some of the processes on the show and that there was a breakdown of trust.

Shading Voyager… Or Something Else?

Perhaps the “three” Star Trek shows that Danielle refers to in For All Mankind are The Original Series and the two shows that Moore worked on, The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine. This would give the scene a more humorous tone, as it might be Moore suggesting that the shows he worked on were the only spin-off Star Trek shows that existed. It would also be a more subtle way to shade Voyager.

Check Out For All Mankind On Apple TV+

In any case, this is likely just a case of fan speculation going a little crazy, as Moore likely isn’t holding on to a long-term grudge enough to throw subtle shade in For All Mankind. Then again, you never know. You can check out For All Mankind Season 4 on Apple TV+ now and decide for yourself.