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Walking Dead Showrunner Defends The Existence Of Carl

There are a few months until AMC most popular TV series comes back on the air. The Walking Dead, love it or hate it, is a power juggernaut of pure genre TV. But despite the fans and overall positive critical reception to the TV series, there are still very questionable elements regarding plotting and character arcs.

The character of Carl (Chandler Riggs) has been at the top of the “just kill him already” list of most The Walking Dead viewers. His sheer stupidity has often led this small band of survivors into deadly encounters and sometimes causes the gruesome death of main characters.

In an interview with the Los Angeles Times, Glen Mazzara one of the showrunners of The Walking Dead talks about what the atmosphere is like in their writer’s room and the existence of Carl.

What’s the biggest argument you’ve had in the writers’ room?

Mazzara: We will have different opinions, and there’s a lot of debate about, you know, would a zombie do that? I wrote a scene in which a zombie climbed a ladder and everybody told me I was an idiot because zombies can’t do that. I was, like, if I wrote it down it happens. And they’re, like, no, no, no. So we cut that [...]

We had a debate about the young boy, Carl. And everyone wants to know why Carl’s not in the house. Well, it’s boring to sit in a house. And he’s a little boy and he wants to mix it up and stuff. And he’s walking through the woods and finds a zombie trapped in the mud and he starts doing what any Huck Finn would do and starts throwing rocks at the monster. And then later that is the same zombie that pulls itself free and kills Dale. And the writers were very nervous about that, you know? It feels earned, but it’s a risk. Because Dale is a beloved character and if this other character is involved and responsible for that death, is the audience going to now hate Carl? But I thought the story was worth the chance.

Many fans and viewers of The Walking Dead really want Carl to die a horrible death at the dead hands of a walker, along with his mother Lori (Sarah Wayne Callies). They often appear as the most annoying and nonsensical of all of the characters on The Walking Dead. The actor who plays Carl, Chandler Riggs, is just terrible and the older he gets, the more ridiculous it’s going to be to see him play with toy cars in the background. An open suggestion to showrunner Glen Mazzara, kill off Carl or put a gun in his hand and let him grow up.

Comments

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adria-Swartz-Underwood/1098561203 Adria Swartz Underwood

    I have read the graphic novels so I know how it should be done. As for what the show should do, put a gun in his hand and give him a purpose. At least that way when he does get into trouble again, he can do something about it.

    • Echelon

      I too have read the graphic novels and I agree that Carl’s natural direction, in this situation of zombie survival, is going to be to grow up quick and “survive”. I mean I’m not even sure how old this kid is supposed to be, but at one point, he is the only one in the group who puts down a physco in their midst. Rough stuff for any little boy, but from the beginning Rick was teaching Carl how to off zombies and he learned pretty quickly the doing the same with living people was no picnic…

  • http://www.facebook.com/rey.rodriguez.7545 Rey Rodriguez

    Carl is a much more interesting
    character in the comics, but that being said I’m ready to see him go in both
    the comics and TV series. Aside from Rick, the obvious main character, there
    shouldn’t be any sacred cows on a show like this. Both print and TV series
    would earn some serious credibility by killing him off. I mean that’s what I
    like about it, its willingness to do what other shows would have shied away
    from.

    • Echelon

      Yeah the character in the comics is better… he does less stupid shit… and is actually vital to saving folks lives a few times.

  • zack w

    I approve this message.

  • iwx

    I’m with the just kill him already crowd; Graphic novel or not, the boy needs to die.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adria-Swartz-Underwood/1098561203 Adria Swartz Underwood

      They sure have np killing off ones still alive in the comic, and keep them alive longer too, so I guess we all just have to wait and see. Sucks huh!

  • GEG

    Its says a few more months? I thought they said they wer coming back July 8th!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adria-Swartz-Underwood/1098561203 Adria Swartz Underwood

      Their season always starts in October. I think originally it was to tie into Halloween.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=647337551 Matthew WaxDaddy Gribben

    Hated him from the get go, just send him off to his zombie lunch fate already

  • Jon k

    Not a big of him but I think they need to let him grow up. Kids would be round in a world of zombies and they would have to learn how to handle them selfs quick

  • John MacLennan

    I want to see Carl grow up, man up and take a hand in the narrative, I want to give his character a chance. It’s almost every child’s dream to have the kind of freedom grown-ups don’t appreciate.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Philthy.for.PM Phil Nicolle

    He wouldnt be so bad if he wasnt so stupid one minute, then the perfect little loyal follower the next. I work with children and Carl just isnt realistic as a person, they use him as a crutch to get away with lazy plot making. Kill him or make him real. (kill him, the actor isnt much good either)

    • Walter Brown

      So you work with children. I suppose you’ve worked with kids living in a zombie apocalypse. You know exactly how a “realistic child” would act in such a situation, huh? The kid has experienced nonstop horror and now finally lives in a place that everyone believes to be safe (the farm). He’s bound to wander around. Of course he would behave like the “perfect little follower” around his parents. I mean, what kid wants to get in trouble with his folks? I do agree, however, that the actor isn’t very good. They should replace him.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=584556371 Joel Connelly

    ” I wrote a scene in which a zombie climbed a ladder and everybody told
    me I was an idiot because zombies can’t do that. I was, like, if I wrote
    it down it happens.”

    What a f***ing idiot, do these idiot writers even research the material/universes they’re writing about?

    “We had a debate about the young boy, Carl. And everyone wants to know
    why Carl’s not in the house. Well, it’s boring to sit in a house. And
    he’s a little boy and he wants to mix it up and stuff.”

    When I was 12 my parents had no problem leaving me at home alone for a
    weekend knowing that I wasn’t stupid enough to go wander off. And I can
    guarantee that if there were killer undead monsters roaming the
    streets/woods near my house that I wouldn’t want to “Mix it up and
    stuff”.

    • http://twitter.com/Pitchy Pitchy

      I have seen zombie movies where the zombies were able to figure out stairs, guns, swim, walk under water… but since you are now the zombie expert, I guess writers should consult with you first before they start scribbling down scripts.

      Now when you were 12, I am pretty sure you weren’t living through a zombie apocalypse, so leaving you at home alone would be a bit different than in the world of The Walking Dead. I am guessing if you were living in a neighborhood chalked full of brain hungry walkers, your parents would have enough sense and decency not to leave you at home alone and would probably keep an eye on you.

      Carl and his mom are idiots and need to go.

      • http://www.facebook.com/IndieJosh Josh Holiday

        He wasn’t saying he was the zombie expert, he said he was familiar with the story. Something Glen Mazzara has never demonstrated.

        Carl and his mom SHOULDN’T be idiots. It’s the writer’s fault. They can kill them both and there will still be characters that suck and people will want dead. It’s not the characters nor the actors, it’s the writers. Until that changes, until they “kill off the writers,” Nothing will change.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=584556371 Joel Connelly

        ” I am guessing if you were living in a neighborhood chalked full of
        brain hungry walkers, your parents would have enough sense and decency
        not to leave you at home alone and would probably keep an eye on you.”

        No doubt they would be keeping an eye on me in a Z-Poc… but that’s not the point, the point is that if savage, unrelenting, man-eating undead were roaming around that would give me even more incentive as a child to stay the frak indoors and not walk around the middle of nowhere like an idiot, doubly so since he has seen the damn things and what they can do. (hell even when I was 5 I wasn’t that damn stupid)

        “I have seen zombie movies where the zombies were able to figure out stairs, guns, swim, walk under water…”

        And I’ve no doubt that you have seen movies like that, Resident evil, Land of the Dead, 28 days later (though arguably not really a zombie movie as the infected are not “Undead”) to name a few. however those movies are not set in the universe of The Walking Dead and therefore have no bearing on the zombies in The Walking Dead.

        “but since you are now the zombie expert, I guess writers should consult
        with you first before they start scribbling down scripts.”

        Not at all, but it might help if they consulted “Robert Kirkman” the writer and creator of the comic book series the show is based on…

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adria-Swartz-Underwood/1098561203 Adria Swartz Underwood

      I do not know how old the show is trying to make Carl but in the comics he is only 7 when it all goes down. Sofia is younger than he also. Not that that matters for the show anymore.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=584556371 Joel Connelly

        Yes, in the comics he is around 7-8 but in the show he is portrayed as being 12.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=584556371 Joel Connelly

    The one child I’ve seen in the walking dead verse that is smart is Clementine from the Telltale game.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=559800737 Arnab Dutta

    I don’t get the reactions. They have portrayed Carl perfectly as it can be. Sometimes it’s been a little silly and irritating, but that’s how the kid is. Part curious, part brave, part irresponsible, part scared kid. I am sure he will grow up next season, but there isn’t any point getting him killed already. Sad to see Dale die, but next season will be even better. The plot’s always better where we see kids grow up amongst the troubles……..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NLXUOUCUCFOI3ECJSHFGE7DAAQ DaMic

    All the writers need to be fired, after so many stupid things they wrote the characters doing that would have left them dead or dying…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000562985247 Shawn Smith

    I think the people on The Walking Dead should just keep doing what they’re doing and not listen to anybody. Most of the time what people think they want isn’t what is entertaining. There are a few things I found irritating about some of the characters, like Lori, but overall I think the show is great and I’m looking forward to whatever direction they take the show in, weather I agree with it or not. If it didn’t provoke a reaction from people it wouldn’t be drama. You’re suppose to feel like, why did he do that? or I can’t believe she’s being such a b**** to him. I enjoy that it makes me feel all the different emotions; happy, tense, pissed, and shocked. I also like that the characters are not one dimensional. Most have good traits and bad traits. Just like in real life, if you like the person enough you over look their bad traits and if they do something that gets you angry enough you find it more dificult to look past those qualities in them. This is awesome. I just hope The Walking Dead team sticks to their guns because no matter what they do someone is going to have something bad to say about it, so they might as well just do what they want to do because you can’t please everyone.

  • http://twitter.com/FastFashn Dana Kincaid

    Gods, what a horrible thing to say about a kid. Maybe the WRITERS just need to write better lines for him?

    Geex. The kill Wesley Crusher jerks are still alive…

  • Trevor

    He punched me in the face asshole it still hurts >; (

  • Joshua Paul

    Finish him off already !