Comments on: After The Walking Dead Mid-Season Finale, Why Every Decision Shane Makes Is Right

By: Ajstrike

Ajstrike — Sun, 04 Nov 2012 06:21:00 +0000

That’s had nothing to do with protecting the group. You can’t defend that. I’d like to think he would have succeeded had he REALLY wanted to.

By: Ajstrike

Ajstrike — Sun, 04 Nov 2012 06:19:00 +0000

Wait what? You mean like killing Randall? He wouldn’t want to kill Sopia. Because he’s not really a sociopath. I think Rick jumped the gun. He didnt even ask Sophia’s mother what she wanted to do. She was the last walker out. They could have restrained her little zombie behind and had her mother kill her. Much like it was between Andrea and her sister.

By: Ajstrike

Ajstrike — Sun, 04 Nov 2012 06:16:00 +0000

I hate rapists. But that has nothing to do with protecting the group from the dangers of the zombie apocalypse. In fact, the way Lori dealt with Shane, after Rick showed up was awfully harsh. She’s a filthy liar. And maybe if she had come and told Rick off the bat, or stayed with Shane. Things may be different. But Lori like most power hungry women. Will go for where there is power. If Rick hasn’t come back she would still be screwing Shane. Also, why didnt she tell Rick what Shane tried to do, if she didnt have have some sick psychotic connection to him?

By: Ajstrike

Ajstrike — Sun, 04 Nov 2012 06:08:00 +0000

But it also has nothing to do with the survival of the group. Which the author of this post is implying. Raping Lori wouldn’t have made Walkers inexplicably explode into the CDC and killing everyone.

By: Ajstrike

Ajstrike — Sun, 04 Nov 2012 05:57:00 +0000

Right… So Shane should have not sacrificed Otis and most likely let them both die and Carl. By my count one life for two is better odds.

By: Ajstrike

Ajstrike — Sun, 04 Nov 2012 05:52:00 +0000

It is a bad move. But it’s an isolated that doesn’t affect the overall safety of the group. Te points the author made were points about keeping the group safe.

By: Ajstrike

Ajstrike — Sun, 04 Nov 2012 05:47:00 +0000

Shane was still right. His actions changed Herschel’s mind about walkers. That they were indeed dead. And not living.Nand dangerous. Herding them in there was psychotic. If Otis had come back, they would have found her and been forced off the barn by Herschel. They didnt need to be there anymore.

By: Ajstrike

Ajstrike — Sun, 04 Nov 2012 05:44:00 +0000

Shane did not know Otis put her there because at that point. Herschel only told Rick at that point because they had to wrangle them. Shane’s mistake still resulted in them finding Sophia. Also if they found Sophia right away, Hershel may have forced them to leave right away. Herschel finally admitted to walkers not being human after seeing Shane fire several shots into the one he was wrangling. Forcing him to see the truth. In the end Shane was right. RIP.

By: Ajstrike

Ajstrike — Sun, 04 Nov 2012 05:31:00 +0000

Exactly. The same rules of society do not apply anymore. Humans first instinct is survival. And survival of the fittest is the law of the jungle. And that’s where they are now. Mankind has to struggle once more to claim its place as the rulers of earth. I like this show. The weak must be culled from the strong.

By: Serge

Serge — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:56:00 +0000

ahhh finally! someone who understands the values of an Antihero and Pragmatisim. i support your argument full heartedly. thank you for writing and posting this, it speaks the ultimate truth without any blinders on whatsoever.

It is glorious, and i wish more people could see it as you and i do.

By: Ashley

Ashley — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 00:33:00 +0000

I completely agree. Also, Shane should have had in mind that a massive shootout like that was going to make enough noise to draw in EVERY SINGLE WALKER for miles around. If you want to clear the barn, you might consider doing it quietly.

By: Ashley

Ashley — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 00:25:00 +0000

THANK you for pointing out that Shane tried to RAPE Lori. He has made some good decisions, but the man has a monster inside of him.

By: Ashley

Ashley — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:33:00 +0000

As for this business with the barn– That MORON could have taken the walkers out one by one and killed them QUIETLY if he wasn’t such a hothead, but of course, of COURSE, he has to make his point by handing out the guns and forcing everyone to make tons and tons of noise by shooting each and every one of them. The farm will be crawling in walkers soon, and it will be Shane’s fault. Well, Shane and Hershel. Also, how is it a bad thing that Rick wants to keep the group in a relatively walker free place that happens to have one of the last people on earth with medical expertise?

Rick told Daryl he didn’t have to go looking for Sophia alone. Daryl chose to go anyway because he believed it was the right thing to do. That, and he’s just that freaking epic.

I like that Rick tries to balance being a decent human being with doing what is best for the group’s survival–as Rick said, as humans, if a child goes missing, you look for her. Besides, “survival” also has Darwinian implications, and the survival of a species hinges on valuing offspring.

By: Ashley

Ashley — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:25:00 +0000

Oh please. I don’t blame him for sleeping with Lori–he was pretty sure Rick was dead. Not certain, but pretty darn sure. I don’t blame him for leaving Rick, because let’s face it, he did everything he possibly could to save him without getting them BOTH killed. But I sure as hell can blame him for pointing his gun at his best friend, whose leadership he does NOT have to accept if he’s really so damn sure Rick’s going to get them all killed, and considering killing him so he can take his wife and kid. That is disgusting, and not enough had gone down to justify it. As for Rick’s mission getting everyone killed–the group had, as we’ve seen, three guns TOTAL before Rick went back for that bag. If the zombie attack had happened while Glenn, unarmed, Daryl, with four arrows, T-Dog, also unarmed, and Rick, with four bullets, had been sitting around the campfire with everyone, how was that going to help save the group again? There were plenty of people in the camp. What they were lacking was survival training and weapons. Also, who was in charge of posting a watchman while Rick was away? Oh yeah. Shane. Rick saved the group from being wiped out by coming back with those guns, and those guns have saved the group many times since. People need to stop breaking Rick’s balls.

By: NP

NP — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 07:37:00 +0000

By killing the walker inside the barn, that ensured that the group would no longer have long term shelter in the farm. Although I understand Shane’s mentality behind his actions – that doesn’t change that fact, that Lori’s future child is deprived of a safe haven for the survivors.

By: Taer

Taer — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:10:00 +0000

You’re forgetting one major thing. After all his bluster and bravado, Shane is ultimately a coward who can’t make the hard decisions.

By: hsamaha1@gmail.com

hsamaha1@gmail.com — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 04:55:00 +0000

To refute some of your arguments, you said Shane didn’t do anything with Lori after Rick came back–he actually tried to rape her at the CDC. Rick didn’t make Daryl search for Sophia, Daryl genuinely believed Sophia would be found and did get angry on several occasions when others suggested to end the search. And when Shane wanted to shoot Rick, I highly doubt he was thinking about keeping the group safe; it was for his own selfish reasons and jealousy/Lori issues (and how do you justify killing your best friend in Shane’s situation?! If you don’t like the leadership, leave the group or vote on the new leader if you have to). Personally, I think Daryl is the best leader; he knows how to survive but he’s still got his morals in check. Rick can be a pushover but Shane is an example of how disasters can change people for the worse.

By: Marsha S. Haneiph

Marsha S. Haneiph — Thu, 05 Jan 2012 05:30:00 +0000

That’s the rub. There’s no such thing as Shane being on anybody’s side. He’s a survivor and in his mind, everybody else is just zombie bait…and I mean everybody.

By: Mamalapapuputey

Mamalapapuputey — Wed, 28 Dec 2011 19:46:00 +0000

The producers and writers really need to stick with the Original Storyline as depicted in the Source Material from the Graphic Novels. Those fans who follow they show and think it is good, just do not know what they are really missing. Shane should already be dead because Carl had to kill him. Sophia is still alive because she never got lost. Andrea will become a super sniper and a great asset to the group which is constantly changing.
Shane is a coward, manipulator and only as good as he needs to be, remember, he left Rick behind, when the proper thing would have been to put him out of any future misery.

By: Crushendo

Crushendo — Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:34:00 +0000

Shane tried to rape Lori in the season 1 finale… Defend it.

By: Mixedupdragonfly

Mixedupdragonfly — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 23:36:00 +0000

I agree I do like Shanes character but unfortunately in the comics he dies. So unless they slaughter the comic to script like True Blood then he is a goner!!! And will it be a suprise who does it!!

By: Jim Van Cleave

Jim Van Cleave — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 14:12:00 +0000

Shane Is NOT always right for several reasons. 1. He is STILL trying to get in Lori’s pants even after Rick returns, 2. Rick going back to Atlanta does NOT result in getting the group attacked…it would have happened ANYWAYS (read the books), 3. Rick did not JUST go back for Daryl’s brother, but also for a HUGE bag of guns and ammo and the police radio to warn away the guy who saved his life and his son (or is it your argument that saving one’s life should always be repaid with betrayal??), 4. Rick wanted to search for Sophia until there was proof one way or the other. The search went on so long BECAUSE Shane shot Otis and no one could learn that he’d rounded her up and stuck her in the barn (Shane realizes this in his expression as Sophia stumbles from the barn!) and 5. Rick “kowtowed” to Herschell out of RESPECT…he gave them safe haven and medical care (3 times!) and it was HIS damn property!!!
The REASON no one follows Shane is that they know Rick will look after and fight for them. Shane has and will always look out for Shane and Shane alone. That’s great if he’s gonna drive off and go it alone, but, if **I** was in a group situation, i’d want Rick on my side! At least i’d know I wouldn’t get left or outright killed if my life became “inconvenient” like with Shane! Rick all the way! Screw Shane like he’s screwed so many others!

By: Dan Fil

Dan Fil — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:37:00 +0000

YOU ARE SO RIGHT! THAT SHANE IS RIGHT! That’s what I love about the Walking dead. If they could push a little bit more about the fact that Shane is right even if it’s not the moral choice so that viewers would be a little bit more divised between the moral things to do and the right things to do. Right now, Shane’s behavior makes him the bad guy but if they could tame him down a little, it would be a good duality…unless of course they’re planning on having to clans going at war over what’s right and what’s moral to do and see who survives! I’m going with Shane!

By: CM

CM — Mon, 19 Dec 2011 19:16:00 +0000

Shane is not making rational choices. Why would a rational person agree with risking 2 men to TRY to save Rick’s son? He takes selfish decisions, but that doesn’t that he is being rational.
Sacrifying Otis when both of them should’ve never gone there in the first place. Very rational, yeah. And it’s very convenient to say that killing Otis was his only option. He could have said: “GTFO or i’ll shoot you, Otis”. You think Otis wouldn’t go?Besides, he doesn’t care about the others, Shane only cares about his own objectives (take care of Lori and Carl). Unless you are one of those being protected by him (Lori and Carl), he’s not the kind of person you’d like to have in your group for a long period of time.And in the long run it’s bad for him, because it’s safer to stay in a group than stay alone, so again you can’t say that he is being rational.ps.: sorry for any mistake, non-native speaker here

By: Jasmine LuckyDragon Tirado

Jasmine LuckyDragon Tirado — Thu, 15 Dec 2011 03:01:00 +0000

Thank you! ..also you forgot to mention…Shane is hot! lol