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5 Questions Raised By The Revolution Premiere

Revolution debuted tonight on NBC and like most network science fiction shows getting the greenlight in the wake of Lost’s long shadow of success, everything’s wrapped in mystery. The show’s linear framework means that we don’t find out what’s really going on until our lead characters do and right now, thanks to a jump forward in time, our lead characters know almost nothing.

That means every week you’re probably going to walk out of Revolution with more questions than answers. These are the five biggest I walked away with from the premiere, bookmark this page and check back after every week’s episode to see if they’ve been answered.

WARNING! Spoilers follow.

1. What happened to electricity and how do we get it back?
This is of course, more than just a question, it’s pretty much the entire premise of the series. We learn in the premiere that all electricity on planet Earth stops and it never comes back. We’re not just talking about failed power stations here, it’s as though the laws of physics have somehow been changed. It seems as though electricity has simply ceased to exist as a natural force. This can’t be actually what’s going on, of course, since your body uses electrical currents to function and that would mean everyone on the show is dead. This isn’t Lost. But everything from batteries to solar energy seems to have stopped, for no reason anyone really understands. It’ll be interesting to see, as the show goes along, if things like lightning still exist.

One thing we do know is that whatever’s happening is probably a man-made phenomenon. There were at least a handful of scientists who expected this and there was, until he was killed off in the premiere, at least one man who seemed to know how it might be possible to turn it all back on again. So how do we get it back? I suspect that once we get the answer to that question, the show will be over.

2. So computers still work for some people, but only if they’re from the ’80s?
This is a somewhat confusing twist on the lack of electricity, thrown in at the end of Revolution’s first episode to tease future developments. Apparently at least two people in the world seem to have working computers. Grace (played by Maria Howell) goes down into her basement and fires up what looks like an ancient Apple IIe and uses it to chat with someone else, somewhere, on another computer. Why does electricity work in her basement? It seems to have something to do with a flash drive, though since flash drives are just data storage devices and not magical energy producers, right now even this doesn’t make a lot of sense.

For me the bigger question is: why is this woman using such a shitty computer? There have to be millions of Macbooks and Thinkpads lying around unused, all over the place. Yet she’s chosen something that looks like a leftover from the 1982 set of Tron. What’s up with that? I guess she’s solved the electricity problem but still hasn’t figured out Windows 3.1.

3. How much does the guy with glasses know about what Charlie’s dad has been up to?
Right before he’s killed, Charlie’s dad Ben (played by Tim Guinee), talks to Aaron (played by Zak Orth) and hints around that he’s already told him everything he knows about the power outage. Maybe Aaron doesn’t know everything, but it’s certain that the former millionaire Google employee knows a lot more than he’s letting on. It seems clear that his real reason for going with Charlie has nothing to do with a desire to honor her father by keeping her safe, as much as it has something to do with something her Dad told him and he’s not sharing.

All this excessive secrecy could become a problem later on in the show. There’s nothing worse than a show where everyone knows everything but just refuses to talk to each other about it. Whether you’re stranded on a desert island with a group of castaways, or you’re traveling through a post-apocalyptic world without electricity: TALK TO EACH OTHER You’ll be amazed by what you might find out. Besides, it’s not like you have TV. What else are you going to do?

4. Whose side is Nate on?
Nate (played by JD Pardo) is the hot guy who, after an encounter by a waterfall, shows up to keep everyone from being raped. By the end of the show we also know he’s some sort of militia spy, but we’re given reason to suspect that he’s a reluctant one. Whose side is he on? We don’t know.

Actually there’s a great degree of ambiguity when it comes to all of the show’s militia bad guys. Most of them aren’t exactly evil, they’re more like people just doing their jobs, jobs which they seem to think may even be helping to keep other safe. Your average post-apocalyptic show usually turns these militia types into crazed extremists, sometimes they’re even cannibals. The fact that this group is actually pretty reasonable leaves some room for us to wonder if maybe they aren’t doing the right thing.

5. Why are so many people using swords and crossbows?
One of the best things about Revolution so far is all the swordplay. I haven’t seen fencing on this level since the cancellation of Highlander: The Series. If there’s one reason to tune in right now, this is definitely it. Only, they haven’t really explained just why so many people are running around wielding swords and crossbows.

Electricity may be gone but gunpowder still seems to work fine. A lot of people have guns but just as many seem to be opting for more primitive weaponry. What’s the deal? Why would you choose a rapier when you could carry around a pistol? There may be a clue somewhere in the fact that most of the guns being used are of a fairly primitive nature. We’ve yet to see anyone running around firing off rounds from an Uzi, for example. But it’s not like you need electricity to fire an AK-47, so where’s all the heavy weaponry… or at least the more primitive firearms? Why aren’t more people using gunpowder? This question needs an answer so I can sit back and enjoy the kick-ass swordplay without wondering why no one has bothered to strap on a Colt revolver. If you’re a gun expert, and you have an answer, let me know in the comments.

BONUS QUESTION: Why couldn’t Terra Nova do this or, why doesn’t Revolution have dinosaurs?
The fact that Revolution works so well and Terra Nova didn’t says a lot about just how awful the writing on Terra Nova was. The look, feel, and style of Revolution is pretty much everything I think nearly everyone was hoping Terra Nova would end up being, minus the dinos. Only Terra Nova had a much easier to grasp, slam dunk plot and Revolution has kind of an uphill battle with this whole “no power” thing. Yet Revolution’s off to a pretty good start while Terra Nova never seemed to get going. Add a time portal and a few Triceratops to Revolution and I think you’d have the perfect show.

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  • flashfast2000

    You need electricity to manufacture modern bullets.

    • JT

      I freely admit to knowing almost nothing about firearms, but aren’t there guns that can fire non-manufactured bullets?

      • http://www.facebook.com/luke.k.mccool Kenton L Miscoe

        As something of a gun enthusiast and self-proclaimed firearms expert for this post, I’m failing to grasp what you mean by “non-manufactured bullet”. It is clearly stated that possession of a firearm is a “hanging offense”. In the tv show we clearly see:

        ~Percussion cap black powder rifle: This form of rifle was prevalent in the 19th century, and was an upgrade to the flintlock rifle of the Revolutionary war era. Instead of a hammer striking a flint to ignite black powder, a copper or other soft metal cap filled with mercury fulminate or other sensitive chemicals is struck with the hammer, creating a much more reliable spark than a flintlock. Black powder and a lead round are loaded separately down the muzzle of the rifle for every shot. Seen in the hands of militia and village folk.
        ~Desert Eagle pistol: This is a fairly modern self-loading pistol that is gas operated and fires modern metallic cartridges. Seen in the hands of Captain Tom Neville.
        ~M4/M-16 pattern rifles, Sig-Sauer 500 series rifles: All modern, gas operated, self loading rifles that fire metallic cartridges. Seen in the hands of militia.
        All of these guns fire lead, or other metal, bullets. Bullets are generally cast into bullet molds. On modern guns, these bullets are then set into brass cartridges containing smokeless gunpowder and a primer, the evolution of the percussion cap. If these basic materials are had, reloading already fired cartridges is not hard (see earlier reply). On the more antique looking firearms, powder and bullet are simply dumped down the barrel (thus, muzzle loader). They are excruciatingly slower to fire, but are simpler to build, and although are incredibly less reliable (especially in the rain), are easier to maintain and produce ammunition for (due to the lower tolerances required for bullet size and quality of propellant).

        Yes, it makes sense to see more primitive firearms, especially as the modern ammo stocks dry up. Why doesn’t everybody have a gun? Because they are illegal. Why where Revolutionary War period colonists able to throw off British Imperial control and become Americans? Because they had guns, guns that our villagers are currently getting hanged for possessing. So our villagers must find something else, thus archery. Crossbows are much easier for the average person to use effectively than a longbow, however longbows are generally better than crossbows in the hands of a skilled user, thus the prevalence of crossbows but longbows are still being used. Swords at their crudest are just very good pointy sticks, and against someone who doesn’t have a sword or doesn’t know how to use one, they are king, thus prevalence of swords in the militia (hooray pointy sticks!), and why the Uncle could wipe out twenty guys (trained bad ass).

        To manufacture a modern bullet from scratch, you need precision equipment that forms the brass cartridge, molds the bullet, molds the primer, and presses it all together. Difficult without electricity, but not impossible. Making gunpowder isn’t that hard, be it old school black powder (potassium nitrate, charcoal, and sulfur), or modern smokeless powder (generally nitrocellulose).

        If I where wandering about on a Tolkien-esque quest in Oh Blast Physics Has Gone Mad World, I’d be packing a longbow, a spear, a sidesword, a hatchet, and a well concealed modern 9mm pistol with plenty of ammo and magazines. I would only use the pistol if I absolutely have to.

        Any more questions?

    • http://www.facebook.com/richard.schafer.10 Richard Schafer

      You can reload shells by hand and you can still make lead bullets, but they may not be as effective.

      • http://www.archeryretail.com/ William

        I agree..This points.

    • http://www.facebook.com/luke.k.mccool Kenton L Miscoe

      You have obviously never seen anyone use a Dillon reloading press. Many shooting enthusiasts reload their own cartridges (entirely without electricity minus obtaining smokeless powder I might add) simply to save money versus buying commercial ammunition.

      • http://www.facebook.com/rufuslucky Lucas Schreiner

        I don’t think you would need electricity to manufacture modern bullets. Cordite is an issue though. It’s made with highly volatile compounds and to the best of my knowledge a ‘how to’ on making it isn’t available like it is for black powder. I’m not sure if you could just substitute BP for C in our current guns, plus there is the issue of the primer (more volatile compounds.)

        • http://www.archeryretail.com/ William

          U r right..

      • Abraxsis

        Also the replacement primer. Those would eventually run out if new ones weren’t being manufactured. Of course, if a militia hoarded all the current ammo they would be set for decades as most ammo, if kept properly, is good for at least 75 years or longer. I’ve personally shot Lapua match-grade .22 rounds made in 1957.

    • http://twitter.com/Jebuz_Mutation Joel
      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bruce-Cameron/100000110186131 Bruce Cameron

        I stand corrected! Crazy.

      • http://www.archeryretail.com/ William

        Thanks for sharing this video..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GKXD2QXJOUN34WXJXVGEEHFW3Q Alexander Onasis

    I thought that for a world where electricity doesn’t exists (hence no factories to produce shampoo, soap, and of course no washing machines, nor clothing factories) these people looked remarkably squeaky clean and with some nice new clothes too.

    • JT

      With convenient access to waterfalls who needs showers?

      In defense of the clothes though, while the clothes were clean, if you noticed in the closeups they were all pretty worn clothes, they were subtly frayed and had the occasional hole or repaired spot. They did put at least SOME effort in to that.

      • http://www.facebook.com/logic11 Traverse Davies

        I used to live in a place with gravity flow water only. We took buckets of water and hauled them up to the roof of our house. We had a bucket with a shower spout that was on pulley’s for showers. I still make my own soap, and while I do use an electric mixer I really don’t need to (it would just be a massive pain in the ass to do the mixing by hand). Lye is easy to make as well, just requires hardwood ash and time.

    • http://twitter.com/ODonnellII Robert O’Donnell

      People can make soap from animal fat. They’ve been doing it for centuries.

      • http://www.archeryretail.com/ William

        I am agree..

  • http://www.facebook.com/richard.schafer.10 Richard Schafer

    I have a few more technical questions. Where is the steam power? Being 15 years after the lose of electricity, the clothes are in amazing shape. With the lose of electricity there are some very advance crossbows and nicely made bows out there. You would also think that the kid with the asthma would have learn how to better cope with it by this time. If the electricity can be reactivated and computers can be used, how are they able to connect? After 15 years the wires would almost certainly be down. If it was sent wirelessly cell towers would have to be powered to relay it and if it was sent via satelite there would have to be some command and control for that which would take a lot of power and attract attention.

    • http://www.facebook.com/richard.schafer.10 Richard Schafer

      I forgot to add that person receiving the computer message either has the other computer on full time or they have a set schedule for contact.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GKXD2QXJOUN34WXJXVGEEHFW3Q Alexander Onasis

        You’re spot on. I was thinking about the same thing. Thanks for writing it up though.

    • http://www.facebook.com/rufus.lukky Rufus Lukky

      Sat phones don’t take a butt load of energy. More then the average cell phone, but not an egregious amount.

      • http://www.facebook.com/gandalf.he.he.he Jason Dennis

        yeah but satelites need control bases to keep there timing in check, without constant attension the whole networks timing system would go out of wack in less then a day and although the satelites would still be working they would be completly useless

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vince-Rossi/100000057877264 Vince Rossi

    So riddle me this:
    Electricity “disappeared” this means what? No steam engines? No guns? Seriously?! If you wanted to say “mass coronal ejection” or “global EMP attack”, even if you said,”aliens did it” I could buy it as part of a story line. But this? This is just b.s on a grand scale. And thanks to that stupidity, combined with the moron that brought us “Lost” and the losers at NBC we will never figure out why anything important happened and, even if they manage to explain it before the show gets canceled, it will sound like b.s.

    • JT

      Kind of early to call BS on it, since we don’t actually know what’s going on yet.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jeffhanson.ca Jeff Hanson

      Almost line for line what I posted on another forum lol. The inconsistencies and use of some crazy conspiracy to explain no power instead of a natural realistic event are just annoying.

  • http://www.facebook.com/alex.allcock Alex Allcock

    it’s interesting to see black powder firearms dug up from the graves of museums, wonder how they are getting away with melting lead to make shot with though? Still, after 15years, I don’t think they would have used up all the ammunition in the world… note the .50 caliber Desert Eagle Esposito’s character is carrying… By the way, why the hell aren’t people using homemade arrows? In order to maintain those carbon fiber arrows being shot, requires plastic and metal that aren’t being produced anymore, not to mention collecting every individual arrow you shoot.

    • Abraxsis

      Not all Desert Eagles are .50AE.

  • http://www.facebook.com/richard.schafer.10 Richard Schafer

    As for the firearms, reloading the shells wouldn’t be a huge problem without power as long as you had supplies of powder and primers. As quantities are depleted the firearms would be used more sparingly, that is why you would see more bolt actions and semi-autos over full autos. Those who would have firearms would most likely be more careful with their shots and take aim before firing. Then again there are those people who have huge stockpiles of ammo stored away.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1117561325 Edmond Maltais

    I agree, if you could have smashed TerraNova with this show, you would have a hit. And where is the steam power, I said that too half way through?

  • Tank0

    What about kinetic energy or wind up tools ? zeppelins would also still work. Even cars are COMBUSTION engines , granted you’d need something else for the spark but that should be fixed in less than 15 years. Sorry this universe they created is hugely underestimating the human nature to adapt. With our current knowledge of chemistry and engineering the world would be dfferent without electricity but not back to the 1800′s either

    • Abraxsis

      Yes, a UNIFIED world would adapt quickly. But given the fact that clockwork technology and even zeppelins are lost arts. You’d have to have master craftsmen, who still did everything without electrical tools, to apprentice a younger generation. It would be difficult to pull off. You don’t just learn some of these old technologies from merely reading books about them.

      • Tank0

        i disagree , google wind up tools and see how obsolete the tech is. in fact it’s making a comeback especially for projects in africa . zeppelins are just hot air not really a steep tech leel needed , and i am not even mentionning delta wings and whatnot

        • Abraxsis

          You are talking about items made with modern manufacturing process and electricity. I am talking about items made entirely by hand. You need people who know how to create clockwork springs and various other components by hand, from scratch, using no modern tech. This, combined with a collapsed government system, not to mention entire countries, would make rediscovering these kinds of technologies difficult. Not impossible, but VERY difficult.

          • Tank0

            No i am talking about returning to old techniques already used in the dark ages. i agree they aren’t wide spread anymore but my country takes pride in the zimmer tower and i know the swiss have similar hobby groups. those people would adapt and become rich very fast. even modern universities study the wind up techniques , google Trevor Baylis and Atkin D&D, heck even philips and sony have a research department on it . sure the production of it would be slow compared to today but after 15 years you’d see plenty of such devices

    • JT

      Cars use combustion engines, but a lot of the things in the car run on electricity. Try taking your battery out and see what happens. You’re going nowhere.

      • Tank0

        i agree that many things on modern cars run on electricity but simple cars from the 1950′s should be doable. in a world of horses a sherman tank would be brutal

        • Abraxsis

          Even cars from the 50′s used spark plugs which require electricity, as well as old crank engines. Even diesel engines use glow plugs, which also takes power.

          • http://www.facebook.com/richard.schafer.10 Richard Schafer

            We have pull started an M35A2 with no batteries installed, we just jumped the wires and it ran great. It may have been running off the generator, but no battery was required.

          • Abraxsis

            I never said anything about a battery … I said they take electricity. Even a vehicle being pull started is running off the alternator. Even little 2 cycle engines get electricity from a magneto device. Diesels could theoretically run since they combust using only compression, its getting them started that would be the issue. May be able to pull start them, of course there is the detail of powered fuel pumps, etc. If they got everything back on the serpentine belt a diesel could probably run without any power what so ever.

          • kneesus

            But they don’t run on glow plugs, just to start them.

    • http://www.facebook.com/choco32583 James Molinar

      As a mechanic I can tell you cars would be worse than useless in this situation,everything in a car is regulated by computers and electricity.Also after 15 years where would you think we would get the fuel from for said cars.I would LOVE to see zeppelins in this but we shall see

      • Tank0

        fuel : ethanol , i saw plenty of corn in the pilot . sure it would cost alot but in dictatorships slave labor is cheap. and again i am not talking about 2012 cars but model T kind of cars should be doable

    • kneesus

      Steam engine, use a train. Diesel engine, runs on compression. There was a time when you started a car with a crank or push start it. Better than trying to feed a horse and ride one too.

  • Abraxsis

    The reason people are using swords was explained in the first 15 minutes of the show. The milita man tells the villager that having a firearm was a “hanging offense.” The militia has outlawed having guns, ergo people use swords and knives. Regarding bullets, only the main guy had an semi-auto pistol. Everyone else was using muzzleloaders. You can make bullets for those from any lead source. Tire weights would be my go to thing, easy to get in a world full of useless batteries and cars. Also, most large caliber semi-auto pistols can use raw lead bullets, they just need a wax coating to prevent fouling the barrel.

    Further, people are posting about steam engines and such. In a fractured society, it might not be so easy bringing all the people together to make this work. Remember that steam technology is a lost art. You’d need old fashioned metallurgists, well-trained blacksmiths, not to mention old styled infrastructure to support such things … which would also have to be built again.

    On the soap comments … sheesh, soap is one of the easiest things to make. Lye from water poured over wood ash and rendered fat mixed together. Bam, you’ve got soap. I mean no offense by this, but reading some of these questions and comments makes me fearful of what happens if something major ever does happen. Don’t rely on technology so much, the old ways of doing things are important to know. And by KNOW I mean not having to Google it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/luke.k.mccool Kenton L Miscoe

      Fouling would certainly be an issue with Neville’s Desert Eagle. Because it’s a stupid huge magnum handgun, it is gas operated which means there are small gas ports to get all gunked up, unlike a useful and intelligently designed pistol such as a Glock or 1911 or Sig, all being short recoil operated.

      • Abraxsis

        Very true, but you must remember that the Desert Eagle only requires a components change to switch between .50AE, .44 Mag, or the .357 Mag. With three options it would be easy to hoard enough ammo to last years and years. Using waxed lead bullets may never become an issue with such a versatile handgun, at least not in a normal lifetime.

        • http://www.facebook.com/luke.k.mccool Kenton L Miscoe

          Realistically, I feel only .357 and maybe .44 Magnum would be the only “hoard-able” ammo for the Desert Eagle. Magnum rounds aren’t known for being cheap, but at least .357 is popular.

          • Abraxsis

            Again, we’re thinking in modern terms. Anything is “hoard-able” when you can just go find it and take it.

          • http://www.facebook.com/luke.k.mccool Kenton L Miscoe

            My point is there is not a whole lot of .44, and almost no .50 AE lying about.

          • gaz

            if this ever happens can u be in my group please :)

    • JT

      Regarding swords…

      A lot of the militia guys are using swords too though. Also almost everyone seems to be doing things the militia has outlawed, you’re telling me the one militia rule everyone follows is no guns? That just doesn’t hold water. Heck it’s not even true… almost everyone in Charlie’s village seemed to have a gun, yet for some reason she didn’t take one with her.

    • http://www.facebook.com/logic11 Traverse Davies

      While I don’t make my own lye (I have started doing some of that) I have pretty much used exclusively soap I made in my own home for the last couple of years. It takes a couple of hours to make a batch if you don’t have an electric mixer, but it’s really no big deal.

      Steam engines on the other hand are fracking hard. I have a house with a rep-rap, have made rocket stoves (ranging in size from small cook stoves to giant behemoths that could be used to heat a house) but I’m not a blacksmith, and being a blacksmith is a lot of work. It takes years of learning.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Kaldia Shay Mason

    I remember seeing some of the school children wearing handmade clothing so I think it’s hit or miss on the clothes. I also noticed that Charlie seems to be wearing shoes with leather wrapped around her calves and secured with belts to look like knee-high leather boots.

    • http://www.archeryretail.com/ William

      U r right…

  • http://www.facebook.com/rufus.lukky Rufus Lukky

    I’d like to comment on that whole the human body runs on electrical currents bit. Electricity that runs through metal wires is a product of loosely held valence electrons that are “shared” with different metal ions in a metallic lattice. They essentially have no weight and are just energy particle/waves. The human body uses actually atomic ions as it’s charge sources Na+, K+, Ca++, Cl-, HCO3- etc… The first two are most important for action potentials.
    These electrolytes are different beast all together when we’re talking about charged particles and their driving force for creating an electrical charge across a membrane is usually driven in no small part by osmolality, the amount of particular particle separated by a semipermiable membrane.
    Moral of the storey is that we don’t run on the same kind of electrical charges.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Robbins/1382690427 David Robbins

    Okay. So I missed the premiere, but I’m wondering, as a sword practitioner myself, why suddenly everyone who picks up a sword seems to magically know how to use one, let alone two! It seems almost laughable. Inquiring minds want to know!

    • Abraxsis

      They’ve had 15 years to learn? Also, only the one guy was obviously “good” with the sword, everyone else was mediocre.

    • Tennwriter

      I’m not a swordsman, but yeah, a real swordsman would slice, dice, and maim his way across a battlefield. I remember sparring with a guy who had some actual training….it was….frustrating as he stood there looking like he was falling asleep as I sweated and whacked away to little effect.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Clanwolf Darwin Canete

    interesting premise. perfect for people who like steampunk, fans of RPGs, or computer geeks who like Arcanum.

  • http://www.facebook.com/douglas.king2 Douglas L. King II

    You have to figure with 15 years passing, who knows how many battles for territory, the fact that ammo manufacture in mass has been nullified. Plus at one point the leader of the militia group trying to capture Ben and Miles stated fire arms are outlawed to civilians. ( at least in the Monroe Territory so those folks are not just going to walk around with them openly). Any ammo that was not “canned” after 15 years is a 50/50 split on being duds or not holding up well. Old school defensive and offensive ways will come back. People will goes back to forging of weapons, making bows, crossbows, spears, swords, etc… Outside of that I like the way it is presented. It has a more realistic feel to an end of normal government in a situation like this. No mass communication, no way to know what is going on, never know who is a spy for who. A traveling trader could be working for anyone. double agents. separatists regimes, feudal kingdoms, and the like. I am looking forward to how this plays out.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bear.fullerton Bear Fullerton

    What I find interesting is that it takes place in the Chicago area in Illinois, right? One of the most anti-gun cities and States in the U,S., so it’s no surprise that not only is the militia making sure they have all the guns (big government) but making sure everyone else they suppress don’t. No surprise it happened this way to as the local people of that City and State are used to having their freedoms curtailed and just let it happen most likely. I personally didn’t understand why in the first fight in the village that no one took out the main man? I mean, shoot him and the rest of his men most likely would have left. Just like when the kid escaped.. I’d have snuck over and killed the guy (and took his gun) before hoofing it out of there. As for cars, they should work and I am sure someone could have come up with some way to get it to work..I mean, the first cars had cranks to start them and even then, there were wood gas burning cars in ww2 and steam powered ones before that. I am interested to see how a Sargent takes over the whole are and how also that everything collapses so well when there are plenty of good solid government structures and forces set up all over the whole country. I really can’t see the military itself falling apart and not being able to stay not only in contact but also not stay together as a cohesive force during times like that.

    • http://www.facebook.com/gandalf.he.he.he Jason Dennis

      i have an answer for that cars issue, spark plugs, petrol driven cars need electricity to run, but that doesnt answer why diesel vehicles arent being used as they use compression to create combustion instead of a spark, also where are all the steam trains, they would work fine.

      • http://www.facebook.com/bear.fullerton Bear Fullerton

        yeah, but the first cars that used a hand crank to start, did they use spark plugs or was something else done to ignite the engine?

      • http://www.facebook.com/bear.fullerton Bear Fullerton

        but good point on diesels.

  • http://twitter.com/ODonnellII Robert O’Donnell

    Guns need ammo, which can’t be mass-produced at the rate the militias use it up fighting each other without electricity.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vince-Rossi/100000057877264 Vince Rossi

      Actually they can be massed produced. The problem is that they would have to forgo the “smokeless powder” and go back to black powder. And that stuff got the English killed when they fought the Zulus because of the clouds it created.

  • http://www.facebook.com/christopher.tkachuk.5 Christopher Tkachuk

    In answer to question two, that device for activating the power was very obviously NOT a flash drive. It was a triangular device with a button in the middle and didn’t plug into the computer. I would guess that there’s some sort of anti-technology field of some sort (probably inhibits the flow of electrons in metals or something like that) and that device nullifies that field. It’s an interesting idea and premise, but it’s not a flash drive.

  • http://www.facebook.com/christopher.tkachuk.5 Christopher Tkachuk

    Actually, watching the swordfight scene between Miles and the Militia, one wonders why the commander said “Shoot!” if they want to take him alive.

  • Writerbynature

    They explained the gun issue with a throw away line in the beginning- It’s illegal for the normal people to have guns, a hanging offense.

    Secondly, she went into her attic (up the stairs, not down) to get to the computer

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1173270531 Richard Morgan

    I enjoyed the concept but really found the “henchmen always miss” sword fight quite annoying. Having 15 men lying around dead after fighting one man was quite frankly, stupid.

  • corrosivepress

    Thank you for point #5! “Revolution” is supposed to take place in America, right? Where we have more guns, rifles, shotguns, street-sweepers, assault-cannons, grenades, and ammunition supplies on nearly every other street corner than any country in the world. NO WAY that would be used up in only 15 years. And just because some militia man says guns are outlawed, doesn’t mean people wouldn’t still have them (especially if they have to worry about an ‘evil’ militia conscripting their children by force). And let me add that in the entire history of humankind, governments and people were able to function pretty darn well before electricity. So we lose electricity after a little over 100 years having it, and everything falls apart? Maybe for a couple of years, sure. But after 15 years? Please! Oh, one more thing: if staying in the cities means death, as stated at the beginning of the show, why do the main characters find so many people still living in Chicago? Move over “Terra Nova,” you now have company in the crappy, badly-executed so-called TV sci-fi category!

  • Aepheus

    1. Guns – few are using them because they require either bullets or musket balls and gun powder. You’d need to fabricate bullets, and since all that infrastructure is gone, it’s probably not happening. What bullets were around probably got used up in the previous 15 years, and are now horded by the militia. They can probably make gun powder and musket balls, but since it requires mining or scavenging, it’s probably a luxury. Compare to sword or bow, no ammo or pull that arrow out of that body… Arrows would be significantly easier to make as well.

    2. The computer thing working is related to the little device she had. I’d go to say it’s only partially usb storage – that probably had some software that allows it to work. The dad downloads something in a hurry when he gets home to put on it. It emits a field that negates what ever is causing electronics not to work. The lights come on when she turns the thing on too, not just the computer. Seems like a specific group of people have these. And, they are hiding. Perhaps that have some base of operations where the guy on the other side was, it could feasibly have power, since they seem to be able to undo the power problem. The computer just looked like an opened up desk top to me. You could see the fan and what not. Maybe she had to do something more to get it to work.

    • kneesus

      Fabricate bullets? Really? It take heat and lead to make bullets. Hobbyists do it all the time. The Chinese made gunpowder without electricity, and then there’s this thing called a steam engine. Arrows are easier to make but about 10x harder to kill somebody with than a bullet. So, nope not buying it. “Dies the Fire” takes the time to fix all of that, this show is just lazy.

  • kneesus

    “Dies the Fire”, I hope this makes succeeds so SM Stirling can get money when he takes you guys to court.

  • kneesus

    Come after me with a sword to hang me and I have a gun, that’s not the best idea is it?

  • Ttony59

    I love these post apocolyptic shows but this has a few holes in it.
    Guns are a hanging offense but it you had the guns you would be the law.
    I understand billets being an expensive commodity but do you have any idea of the amount of 223 and 9mm ammo out there. I have a thousand rounds of each plus 45 cal cache.
    Is that little devise that cranked up the computor a generator? Because every one talks about the power coming back on but no one is talking about power generation . Like Centerpoint is just going to flip a switch .
    Last, I have never seen that many crossbows … Not even in a store.
    Disappointed in this show

  • http://twitter.com/Jebuz_Mutation Joel

    Don’t forget that guns require a spark to fire.

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