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		<title>By: JT</title>
		<link>http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/film/transformers-2-fanboys-fault.html/comment-page-1#comment-813</link>
		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ILM did do a good job on the special effects, unfortunately Michael Bay did such a poor job of filming them even they were impossible to enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ILM did do a good job on the special effects, unfortunately Michael Bay did such a poor job of filming them even they were impossible to enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: CyFrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>CyFrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally didn&#039;t enjoy the first one.  I was such a fan of the original as a child to the point of owning the entire series on DVD including the animated movie.  Only reason I went and saw this one was cause I was told it was done so much better than the first one.  I think it was worse.  

The only thing I can say was the special effects that ILM did were fantastic and Megan Fox looked hot.  The plot was so full of holes and problems I found myself not enjoying it.  What is the point of making Jetfire a jet if he is just going to teleport everywhere.  If a shard from the ALL Spark can bring back Megatron then why couldn&#039;t the piece that Sam had be used on Megatron.  If they found a shard after the first movie and it can be used to revive dead Transformers then why wasn&#039;t the one piece used on Jazz after the first film.   If I remember correctly Wheelie was created in this film after a piece of the All Spark fell yet he knew that the writings were ancient Cybertronian and where all the hidden seekers are.  Why is it the all the Transformers created from the All Spark seem to start off bad and evil?  Are they inherently evil by nature but some choose to be good but that seems to go against the fact that all the Primes in this film were good and it was The Fallen who started the path of evil.  The shard the military had was in a special containment room so it couldn&#039;t be detected or give off energy to create new Transformers but the one Sam had didn&#039;t create any new ones except in his kitchen even though he didn&#039;t have any special container for his piece.  

I point is the plot was bad and the writing was done horribly.  Only way to enjoy this film is to shut off your brain when the opening credits start.  I don&#039;t want a movie where I have to be brain stupid and just watching going &quot;oh shiny&quot; all the time.  I think there are many others who share this point of view and expected more.  I don&#039;t think anyone expected this to be an Oscar winning performance of a film.  They just wanted more out of than what we were handed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally didn&#8217;t enjoy the first one.  I was such a fan of the original as a child to the point of owning the entire series on DVD including the animated movie.  Only reason I went and saw this one was cause I was told it was done so much better than the first one.  I think it was worse.  </p>
<p>The only thing I can say was the special effects that ILM did were fantastic and Megan Fox looked hot.  The plot was so full of holes and problems I found myself not enjoying it.  What is the point of making Jetfire a jet if he is just going to teleport everywhere.  If a shard from the ALL Spark can bring back Megatron then why couldn&#8217;t the piece that Sam had be used on Megatron.  If they found a shard after the first movie and it can be used to revive dead Transformers then why wasn&#8217;t the one piece used on Jazz after the first film.   If I remember correctly Wheelie was created in this film after a piece of the All Spark fell yet he knew that the writings were ancient Cybertronian and where all the hidden seekers are.  Why is it the all the Transformers created from the All Spark seem to start off bad and evil?  Are they inherently evil by nature but some choose to be good but that seems to go against the fact that all the Primes in this film were good and it was The Fallen who started the path of evil.  The shard the military had was in a special containment room so it couldn&#8217;t be detected or give off energy to create new Transformers but the one Sam had didn&#8217;t create any new ones except in his kitchen even though he didn&#8217;t have any special container for his piece.  </p>
<p>I point is the plot was bad and the writing was done horribly.  Only way to enjoy this film is to shut off your brain when the opening credits start.  I don&#8217;t want a movie where I have to be brain stupid and just watching going &#8220;oh shiny&#8221; all the time.  I think there are many others who share this point of view and expected more.  I don&#8217;t think anyone expected this to be an Oscar winning performance of a film.  They just wanted more out of than what we were handed.</p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aside from just the general violence of the thing which you mentioned, the characters themselves seem a lot less noble.

There are a couple of scenes for instance, where Optimus flat out murders a helpless enemy in cold blood, and he really seems to like it.  There&#039;s a definite bloodlust to the film.

That&#039;s not the Optimus Prime we all knew and loved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from just the general violence of the thing which you mentioned, the characters themselves seem a lot less noble.</p>
<p>There are a couple of scenes for instance, where Optimus flat out murders a helpless enemy in cold blood, and he really seems to like it.  There&#8217;s a definite bloodlust to the film.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not the Optimus Prime we all knew and loved.</p>
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		<title>By: actrambley21</title>
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		<dc:creator>actrambley21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll tell you what crowd pushes this movie into historically insane income: Wii owners. Now, you&#039;re probably saying to yourself &quot;What the hell is he talking about?&quot;, but think about it for a second. Granted, there are some &quot;hardcore&quot; fans of the Wii, but for the most part, the major and dominant audience of the Wii are casual gamers that really don&#039;t know any better. This is what is driving the popularity of Revenge of the Fallen.

I was just thinking to myself before I saw the movie that I liked Transformers BEFORE they were cool (i.e., before the first Bay movie came out, 1986 animated movie FTW). I remember when Transformers 1 came out two years ago and most of the people that went to see it were guys, some girls, but mainly geeky guys, just like what you described. When we went and saw Transformers 2, there were little kids, obnoxious college guys, slutty chicks with their frat-boy boyfriends, etc.. I know that the first movie, and certainly not this one either, was not meant to be totally true to the storyline or the hardcore fanbase, but with the latest entry Bay has certainly stepped out of reality zone, a zone that ticks off fans.

And as a final note, I think that the biggest turn off for me with the movie was the content. Now, I love movies like Crank, Shoot Em Up, etc., movies that are off the wall and have some crazy violence, language, the works. But NONE of this belongs in Transformers. The first movie was pretty clean in terms of content, and it worked well that way. It appealed to kids, teens, and adults alike, and was appropriate for all (IMO). Transformers 2 however, was full of vulgarities, senseless innuendos, and much more violence (this part I was ok with, simply because in a situation of escalating violence, it&#039;s to be expected). I will say though that way more soldiers died than needed to, given the fact that NO Autobots died. But what I&#039;m getting at is that Bay upped the ante in terms of presentation and content, but by doing so he essentially alienated a large portion of his fanbase: kids! They&#039;re promoting the movie on Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network for God&#039;s sake!

It&#039;s pretty sad to see such a classic franchise turn into a cash cow that has been whored out by a devious madman. :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll tell you what crowd pushes this movie into historically insane income: Wii owners. Now, you&#8217;re probably saying to yourself &#8220;What the hell is he talking about?&#8221;, but think about it for a second. Granted, there are some &#8220;hardcore&#8221; fans of the Wii, but for the most part, the major and dominant audience of the Wii are casual gamers that really don&#8217;t know any better. This is what is driving the popularity of Revenge of the Fallen.</p>
<p>I was just thinking to myself before I saw the movie that I liked Transformers BEFORE they were cool (i.e., before the first Bay movie came out, 1986 animated movie FTW). I remember when Transformers 1 came out two years ago and most of the people that went to see it were guys, some girls, but mainly geeky guys, just like what you described. When we went and saw Transformers 2, there were little kids, obnoxious college guys, slutty chicks with their frat-boy boyfriends, etc.. I know that the first movie, and certainly not this one either, was not meant to be totally true to the storyline or the hardcore fanbase, but with the latest entry Bay has certainly stepped out of reality zone, a zone that ticks off fans.</p>
<p>And as a final note, I think that the biggest turn off for me with the movie was the content. Now, I love movies like Crank, Shoot Em Up, etc., movies that are off the wall and have some crazy violence, language, the works. But NONE of this belongs in Transformers. The first movie was pretty clean in terms of content, and it worked well that way. It appealed to kids, teens, and adults alike, and was appropriate for all (IMO). Transformers 2 however, was full of vulgarities, senseless innuendos, and much more violence (this part I was ok with, simply because in a situation of escalating violence, it&#8217;s to be expected). I will say though that way more soldiers died than needed to, given the fact that NO Autobots died. But what I&#8217;m getting at is that Bay upped the ante in terms of presentation and content, but by doing so he essentially alienated a large portion of his fanbase: kids! They&#8217;re promoting the movie on Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network for God&#8217;s sake!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty sad to see such a classic franchise turn into a cash cow that has been whored out by a devious madman. :/</p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you&#039;re missing is that many of the complaints directed towards it have been directed towards its failure to deliver the mind-numbing, brainless entertainment you&#039;re trumpeting.  It&#039;s untrue that critics are critiquing it as if it&#039;s some Oscar movie.

And as I said above, I did go to Transformer fan sites.  The reaction there is not nearly as positive as it is in more generally focused places like IMDB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you&#8217;re missing is that many of the complaints directed towards it have been directed towards its failure to deliver the mind-numbing, brainless entertainment you&#8217;re trumpeting.  It&#8217;s untrue that critics are critiquing it as if it&#8217;s some Oscar movie.</p>
<p>And as I said above, I did go to Transformer fan sites.  The reaction there is not nearly as positive as it is in more generally focused places like IMDB.</p>
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		<title>By: Bandobras</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bandobras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with the concept that all geeks hate this movie. It&#039;s just not true. Go on the Transformers fan sites and forums, and just like the general public, most people&#039;s reaction is that this is enjoyable. The thing is, it&#039;s not a film. It&#039;s a movie, a roller-coaster ride. It&#039;s about giant robots fighting and things exploding, and at that, it succeeds. It does away with such trivialities as plot, character progression, reason, and logic, and replaces them all with exciting things to look at. It&#039;s not a 2.5 hour commercial, it&#039;s a 2.5 hour blip-vert. It&#039;s pure id, whereas the reviewers are trying to apply it to super-ego standards. The divide is between an audience who just wants to turn their brain off and a reviewing apparatus that MUST have their critical faculties engaged as part of their job function. This is the ultimate critic-proof movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with the concept that all geeks hate this movie. It&#8217;s just not true. Go on the Transformers fan sites and forums, and just like the general public, most people&#8217;s reaction is that this is enjoyable. The thing is, it&#8217;s not a film. It&#8217;s a movie, a roller-coaster ride. It&#8217;s about giant robots fighting and things exploding, and at that, it succeeds. It does away with such trivialities as plot, character progression, reason, and logic, and replaces them all with exciting things to look at. It&#8217;s not a 2.5 hour commercial, it&#8217;s a 2.5 hour blip-vert. It&#8217;s pure id, whereas the reviewers are trying to apply it to super-ego standards. The divide is between an audience who just wants to turn their brain off and a reviewing apparatus that MUST have their critical faculties engaged as part of their job function. This is the ultimate critic-proof movie.</p>
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